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From: Budget racer - can't waste oil .....--... Document Link IconRe: Why different standards
on 07/02/2008 at 09:33 PM
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End cases to suit 60 or so clubby bikes , average age 30 years , must be aluminium , thickness equal to or thicker than original . Must be ADR AND FIM compliant - even though that esteemed organisation only requires them on homologated Superbikes/Supersport/Superstock machines .
Such covers must be able to withstand being subjected to a measured force ( probably with a calibrated ball pein hammer )equal to or greater to that which could be reasonably expected in a 130 km / hour fall . This test must be performed by a scrutineer who isn't busy ensuring other safety requirements are being met .
To save the scrutineer the bother of drilling a hole in said cases to ensure the thickness is equal to or greater than OEM - he will refer to his specs for over 100 makes/models specifying OEM end case thickness - a certificate from a NATA or other certified authority confirming thickness must be made available at the time of purchase .
Perhaps Mr O'Neill you can help me with this - I will make it easy , I only will ask for advice on where to obtain covers for one machine from you - a 1972 Honda CB100.....I realise this may be a bit of a bother , but you are obviously passionately concerned about my safety , and the safety of others I compete with .


Mr Nameless,

while I am concerned about your and your fellow racers safety, even if you are not given the tone of your comments, I'm afraid I have no technical advice for you as a Honda CB100 last time I checked wasn't a motorcycle currently competing in the ASC.

Given that you sound like a certain expert engineer I'm not sure why you are asking me? I would have thought you could bend up some aluminium plate and drill a few holes yourself?

I have taken the time, a lot of time, to try and assist people on first up actually getting a clalification on the new rules which I succeeded in getting and then I took even more time in trying to explain the rules and the meaning of the rules and why they have been implemented, given that there really isn't anywhere for competitors and grumpy old club presidents to go to try and seek clarification quickly more often then not.
It would seam that all this has done is anger some people. So I would suggest that everyone who feels the need to have their say or ask a question contact the governing body, I'm sure there will be a line of people there to assist you in your quest for infomation.

If competitors in the ASC need assistance and want to ask questions then they can feel free to contact me by email or phone and I will do whatever I can for them. If people concerned about club racing want to belly ache then you have come to the wrong place you need to speak with M.A.

Mr Graham asked a question several days ago if the standard aluminium engine sidecovers on a GSXR600 would be adequate within the definition of the new rules, I invited him to contact Phil Tainton as he could clarify it for him. Well Mr Graham, I took the time to ask the question on your behalf given that it would seam you where more interested in making a points on this website then actually finding out the answer. Phil Tainton has said that no the standard covers on there own don't meet the requirements unless they have an adequate cover mounted in front of them.

Regards,
Terry O'Neill

Comments Rules
Road Racings Engine End Case Rules Clarified By M.A () 01/30 01:50 PM
. . Re: Road Racings Engine End Case Rules (400 racer) 01/30 05:23 PM
. . . . Re: (damian) 01/30 08:53 PM
. . Re: Road Racings Engine End Case Rules (Case Covers) 01/31 05:33 PM
. . . . Re: End cases (tim900) 01/31 08:38 PM
. . Re: Road Racings Engine End Case Rules (Chris Peake - President Cafe Racer Club of SA) 02/06 04:12 PM
. . . . Re: (Matt) 02/06 07:29 PM
. . . . Re: (wet4u) 02/06 09:33 PM
. . . . Re: Road Racings Engine End Case Rules (Chris Peake President Cafe Racer Club of SA) 02/06 10:21 PM
. . . . . . Re: Why different standards (Chris Peake - President Cafe Racer Club of SA) 02/07 02:03 PM
. . . . . . Re: (Budget racer - can't waste oil) 02/07 09:33 PM
. . . . . . . . . . Re: Thank you (Rob Graham) 02/08 10:27 AM
. . . . . . . . . . Re: End Case Covers (mcullen) 02/08 08:08 PM
. . Re: Road Racings Engine End Case Rules (Rob Graham) 02/06 05:49 PM
. . . . Re: ASC Sup Regs (Rob Graham) 02/06 07:34 PM
. . . . . . Re: (kjc024) 02/07 10:22 AM
. . . . . . Re: Engine End Cases (Rob Graham) 02/07 12:15 PM
. . . . . . . . Re: Volunteers protection (Rob Graham) 02/07 03:53 PM
. . . . . . . . . . Re: (Observer) 02/07 04:36 PM
. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: sensible rules (Rob Graham) 02/07 05:12 PM
. . . . . . . . . . Re: (Head Shaker) 02/08 10:45 AM
. . Road Racings Engine End Cases (Paul McMenamin) 02/09 05:13 PM
. . Road Racings Engine End Cases (Paul McMenamin) 02/09 05:14 PM
. . Re: Road Racings Engine End Case Rules (Rules Are Rules) 02/21 02:03 PM
. . Re: Road Racings Engine End Case Rules (Buellnz) 01/30 07:04 PM
. . . . Re: End cases (tim900) 01/30 10:09 PM
. . . . . . Re: End case protectors (tim900) 01/31 06:50 AM
. . . . . . . . Re: end case protectors (tim900) 01/31 08:46 AM
. . . . . . . . Re: Holed Cases (Craig Nicholson #14) 01/31 03:46 PM
. . . . . . . . . . Re: (Craig Nicholson #14) 01/31 09:55 PM
. . . . . . Re: oil soaker (Rob Graham) 01/31 11:33 AM
. . . . . . Re: End cases (Buellnz) 01/31 03:28 PM
. . . . Re: End cases (tim900) 01/30 10:11 PM
. . . . . . Re: end cases (k2svpete) 02/07 02:13 PM
. . . . Re: Beully's case covers (Rich J) 01/31 11:45 AM
. . Re: Road Racings Engine End Case Rules (Question) 01/31 08:57 AM
. . . . Re: Rich J (Buellnz) 01/31 03:58 PM


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